Wednesday, July 13, 2005

ekhtiar-javab beh hamid

Salam
say mikonam ghesmat be ghesmat be Hamid javab bedam:
1. >>az yek dide daroon nezaami age negah konim, jeddan har kas omdeye kaar haei ke mikone ro mitoone nakone va mikone ya bar ax va baraye hamin ham morede soaal vaghe khahad shod ke chera kardi ya nakardi
in harfet ro negahdar, bar migardam behesh. vali manzooret az "dide daroon nezaami" ro nemifahmam. ye kam bayad lotf koni sathe jomlehat ro dar hade man biaari paain.
2.>>az ye dide dige, ye negaahe boroon nezaami, mishe injoori did: har chi az har jaei too aalam raah oftade ye harkati mikone va bar migarde be aslesh, yani be hamoon jaaygaahe avvalesh...
man movafeghe in harf nistam. yani manzooret ine ke man barmigardam hamoon ke boodam? pas karhai ke kardam chi mishe? nemishe goft ye daneshmand, mesle Pastor, bar migardeh be hamoon jaaye ghadim. in baba inhame kar kardeh. vaghti Pastor be donya oomad, esmesh hich jaa nabood. alan va baraye hamishe esmesh too tarikhe.
3.>> too ghoraan ham in did oomade... aslan ekhtyar mani nadare ke kasi bekhad raje be oon harf bezane. too ghoraan ham bad az oon harf mige ke ye edde hedayat mishan va ye edde ham hagheshoon ke gomrahi bood be oon miressan...
ey agha in vasat edalat chi shod? in kamelan ba edalat moghayere! age jaaye aval e man ro khoda behem dade, bad ham bar migardam jaaye avalam, in vasat taghsire man chie ke bayad beram jahanam?! man in ro nemifahmam: "hagheshoon ke gomrahi bood be oon miressan". chera haghe kasi bayad gomrahi bashe. age injoore ham zolm karde ke in baba ro aafarideh, ham naa-aadele ke ye seri digaro hedayat karde! (mishe esme sooreh ro begi?)
3.b>> yani age yeki az jahannam khalgh shode ghat'an eb oonja barmigarde va yeki ke beheshtie ghat'an be oonja bar migarde...
beyne man e jahanami o aghaye beheshti edalat chi mishe? (barmigarde be harfam too 3)
4.>> aslan too in did jaaei baraye ekhtiar nist, hamoontor ke jaaei baraye hesaab o ketab o eghaab ham nist.be nazar miad in dide dovvom ba dide avval hich tanaghozi nadare...
etefaghan kheyli tanaghoz dare! too shomare 1 migi "har kas omdeye kaar haei ke mikone ro mitoone nakone.." bad too nazarie dovom migi har kari bokone, akharesh jahanamie (ya beheshti). ide aval harf az ekhtiar (e mahdood) mizane, ide dovom, khodet ham migi, jai baraye ekhtiar o hesab ketab nadare!
Hamid jaan, rastesh indafe ziad tozihet man ro ghane nakard. tozih avali ghashang tar bood. kolli majbooram kard fek konam. inyeki kheyli tanaghoz gooi dasht. nazaret dar morede theory e man chie? aghalan ye khoobi dare. kamelan az zehne khodam oomade ;)
P.S. bebakhshid farsi naneveshtam, vaght konam farsish mikonam.
ya hagh

10 Comments:

At 8:40 AM, Blogger Hamid said...

Salam koorosh jan
agha tammame nokteye bahs e dovvom ke maghfool moonde ine ke tebghe tarifi ke az system dade mishe, jaaei aslan baraye jabr av ekhtiar nemimoone. yani oonja hokme azali ine ke har chizi be asle khodesh bargarde. dige aslan kaar e shoma va talashe shoma mani nadare, hame daran talash mikonan ke bargardan jaaye avvaleshoon.
eshkaale in did ke doos daram raje be oon bahs she, albatte jodaye az in did ham dar in baare soaal faraavaane , ine ke , Hadaf az khelghate maa chie ba in hesab!!!??!?!
tazakkor bedam ke bedoone matrah kardane in did ham in soaal ghaabele tarh va por ahammyyate.
(tosye mikonam ye bar dige daghigh tar matn ro bekhoonin, mibinin ke do ta did bedooen tanaghoz ba ham az do zavyeye joda matrah shodan , pas nemitoonin harf az tanaghoz bezanin- mesle inke begin e! age to baradare mani pas chera amooye hasani! mage kasi gofte age man ba shoma baradaram bayad ba hame baradar basham?!?! na jaaen man ba bazi ha ham mitoonam pedar, pesar, amoo, daaei va .. basham!:) )
ya hagh

 
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At 12:18 PM, Blogger Hamid said...

Salam
az hamegi be dalile in hame ba deghat khoondane matn mamnoonam! baba man ke shomareye aye ro neveshtam hamoonja!!! jeddan ajibe ha!
ya hagh

 
At 12:57 AM, Blogger کوروش said...

Hamid jaan
eshkal az injast ke didgahe dovom, be ghole khodet, az ghoraan oomade biroon. moshkel injast ke ma hanooz tooye bahs ghoraan ro matrah nakardim. ta man 100% ghoraan ro napaziram, bahs dar morede nazariatesh momken nist. aval farze masaleh ro bepazirim baad.
ye nokteh dige dar morede tanaghoz did aval va dovom, man hanooz nemifahmam harfe shoma ro. did e aval mige man ekhtiar-e mahdood daram. did e dovom mige har kari bokonam barmigardam jaaye avalam, ya behesht, ya jahanam. (ya padash, ya mojazat). age khodam entekhabi dar in "jaaye aval" nadashtam, chera bayad be khatere oon mojazat ya padash begiram? ekhtiar dar did aval, be dard sarnevesht e man dar did dovom nemikhore! pas ziad ham bahs e dadash o amoo nist.
in aaye ro ham hala lotf kon inja benevis, chon ba shomareh sakhte peyda kardanesh.
ya hagh

 
At 1:09 AM, Blogger کوروش said...

Hamid jaan
faramoosh kardam be ghesmat aval peyghamet javab bedam, bebakhshid:
in ke shoma migi dar ghesmate aval ke kar o talash e man hich faydei nadare o akharesh hamoon jaaye avale bad joori edaalat, hekmat, va kheyli az sefate khoda ro zire soal mibare. gheyr az inke hadafe zendegie man ro zir soal mibare. vali khob baz ham migam, aval bayad bebinim ghoraan ro ghabool darim, bad dar morede in aaye bahs konim.

 
At 7:26 AM, Blogger Hamid said...

salam koorosh jan
javaab badanmidam
amma inke ghoran ro ghabool darim ya na ahammyati nadare. ma nazar ro naghd mikonim kari ham nadarim ke ki gofte!
ya hagh

 
At 7:36 AM, Blogger کوروش said...

Hamid jaan salam
hagh ba shomast.
hala ke injoor shod, be nazare man nazarieh aval ghabel ghabool e, vali dovomi kheyli irad dare. man nemitoonam ghaboolesh konam. bad joori zendegi o afiranesh o gheyra ro pooch mikone.

 
At 9:03 AM, Blogger کوروش said...

Ali jaan
say mikonam oonjahai az harfat ro ke fahmidam javab bedam:

1.>>Baba in ghadr in agha hamid ro azyat nakonin....

ma mokhlese agha Hamid ham hastim va ba deghat mikhoonim hame harfash ro. ye ghesmat az harfash ro ghabool darim, ye ghesmat ro ghabool nadarim, ye ghesmat ro nemifahmim. in aaddieh.

2.>>Kourosh jan mage edalat joz ine ke har chizi bargarde be jaye khodesh....

be nazare man edaalat kamelan mokhalefe ine. age jaaye aval e ali agha ba kourosh fargh mikarde, ali agha beheshti boode, kourosh jahanami, khoda dar afarinesh kourosh va ali, aadel naboode. age hala jaaye aval ro bikhial, badesh ali agha too zendegi harja ekhtiar dare, say kone khoob bashe, pas beheshti she, kourosh baraks say kone bad beshe, jahanami she, in mishe edaalat baraye man. kheyli SADE goftam ha.. too joziatesh naro, asl ro bebin chi migam.


3.>> Tavajjoh konid ke in dide dovvom az biroone....

khodai in bahs did az biroon va az too baraye man ke sangine. baghie ostadan mifahman, man ziad nemifahmam. khodet ham migi sakhte ke ma ke az dakhel negah mikonim begimm az kharej che joorie. pas agha bikhial in bahs birooni shim age injoore. shayad asaase bahs bade. inke migi khoda ro ghabool konim aval, harfe khoobie. a aval ke shoroo be bahs kardim, goftim khoda ro ghabool darim. shayad injoori shod ke fori residim be bahse ekhtiar. shayad bahse ekhtiar bayad bad az edalat biad. aval begim khoda chist va kist? che sefaat aslii darad, ghabooleshoon konim, bad bebinim in khoda ma ro mokhtar aafarideh ya na.

4.>>jaryane FARZ va HOKM


Ali jaan va Hamid jaan. ye chizi ro ghablesh roshan konim. inja be raveshe feghhi nemishe bahs kard. chon man feghh nakhoondam, kheyli dige az doostan ham hamintor. az raveshe kheyli saade (ye kam mohandesi) estefade konim baraye bahs. mesaal mizanam: ALEF=khodaa adel ast. B=AADEL ZOLM NEMIONAD. agar man harfe ALEF va harfe B ro ghabool kardam, oonvaght shoma mitooni begi ke A+B-->KHODA ZOLM NEMIKONAD. injoori bahs konim. chera? chon (5 ro bekhoonin)...


5.>>too dide dovvom Hamid jan in ghaanoon ro FARZ migire ke har chizi be 'asle khodesh bar migarde.

in yani chi? man in FARZ ro ghabool nadaram. pas nemishe in ro farz begiri begi ...

6.>>Man too aalame vojood in ghaanoon ro FARZ migiram(FARZ 1) ke age meili(dar halate extreme eshghi) vojood dare,in meil erza khahad shod.

man in FARZ ro ghabool nadaram. har meyli erza nakhahad shod. che dalili dare har meyli erza beshe?! bad ba in FARZ miresi be :

7.>>Baz mipaziram(FARZ 2) ke hameye ensan ha, yek fetrat darand ke meil be ziba'i,edalat,tohid,...(hame taghriban yeki hastand) darad.

hala begim man FARZ 2 ro ghabool kardam...

8.>>Ba tavajjoh be in 2 farz in meili ke dar ma be edalat vojood darad erza' khahad shod.(HOKM 1)In erza' shodan e meile ma,ma ra razi mikonad,pas digar jaye shekayati baaghi nemimanad.(HOKM 2)

irad kare to Ali agha injast: man FARZ 1 e to ro ghabool nadaram bad Farz 1 va 2 ro ba ham jam mikoni, be ye hokm miresi. injoori nemishe chon man ke farz 1 ro ghabool nakardam hanooz, to nemitooni azash hokm bekeshi. mesaal mizanam: (be ghole to) FARZ 1: Kourosh pezeshke. FARZ 2. bimar pishe pezeshk bayad bere --> HOKM: bimar bayad bere pishe Kourosh. (e hame bimar ha begin in ro ghabool nakonan chon FARZ aval bad joori irad dare ;))

man injoor estedlal ro ghabool nadaram!

9.>>"Man in ro ham mipaziram(FARZ 3) ke yek seri bad aafaride mishavand va yek seri khoob(be soorate belghovve).Ba tavajjoh be inke edalat in ast ke ensane bad be jahannam beravad va ensane khoob be behesht va ba dar nazar gereftane HOKM 1,bad ha be behesht miravand va khoob ha be jahannam miravand(HOKM 3).Az HOKM 3 va HOKM 2,natije mishavad ke ba raftane badha be jahannam va khoob ha be behesht hame razi hastand va hich kas shekayati nadarad."

khodet ye bar dige in ro ke neveshti bekhoon! khodai age injoori bood o to jahanami aafaride shode boodi, shekayati nadashti?!


bebakhshid toolani shod.

paayandeh bashid

 
At 8:49 AM, Blogger Hamid said...

Salam be hame
bale agha saeed. ma darim inja tahammol va hagh dadan be digaran ro tajrobe mikonim. in jeddan aalie ke adam ha betoonan nazare khodeshoon ro bedan va be harfe ham goosh konan bedoone guard gereftan.
khosh bashid
ya hagh

 
At 2:54 AM, Blogger کوروش said...

Hamid jaan salam
mamnoon az harfe ghashanget. man ke be in weblog kheyli eftekhar mikonam ke adamhaye moaddab o manteghi dore ham jam shodan o ba ham tabadol nazar mikonan. kash hame ja injoori bood.
Saeed jaan sabr dashte bash. hadaf ine ke chiz yad begirim. inha ham jozveshe.
P.S. Hamid jaan nazaret nesbat be harfaye Ali chie?

P.S. 2. Ali jaan, ye post jadid minevisam. inja dare toolani mishe.

 

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